Very convincing response, I think I'll stay right here and with absolutely no change to what I'm thinking until someone with a brain can come along and actually have a discussion.

You want to lose tho, go ahead, vote corporate joe and see how many others feel like me. It isn't like I'm literally trying to have this uncomfortable discussion now while there is still a chance to vote for a candidate who doesn't stand a chance of losing and actually represents the will of the people.

I heard this bullshit before with hillary and voted for her anyway. Not again, shit is so fucked now if we don't get someone more than slightly better than trump then it simply will not matter.