'Completely avoidable': Vaccination could have prevented Disneyland measles outbreak

Has anyone got numbers on the ratio?

LA times reports >70 cases, 5 of which were vaccinated. No word on whether those people had booster shots or not -- its only about 80% effective if you don't get the booster... and your antibody levels can still drop over several decades. Herd immunity is enough to protect against this being a significant problem, if 95% of the herd gets immunized. Sadly, due to misinformation and panic, the likes of which is contained in your post, we're falling well short of this threshold.

I can't help but notice how the talking head brings up autism completely unprovoked (3:06).

That's what started this controversy. Once it was clearly established that there was no link, all the anti-vaxers started looking for other reasons to cling to their beliefs -- because otherwise they'd be wrong, and clearly that's just not possible!

He also assumes there are entire communities of people who dont vaccinate inside cities (2:13)

There are. Hasidic Jews in NYC are a classic example. They've had measles outbreaks recently.

No numbers are provided on the chance of the side effects, however almost all of them (like the skin rash and fever) are temporary and last only during the disease itself.

Mumps can make you sterile. Measles can cause permanent brain damage (mental retardation) due to brain swelling and/or high fever. Both can cause severe ear infections that can cause permanent loss of hearing. Both can cause pneumonia and lead to respiratory failure. There are quite a few severe, life-changing complications that you've conveniently omitted.

Over 3,000 US and 12,000 German infants received one or more doses of Tripedia vaccine as part of the primary immunization series in clinical trials conducted by the sponsor and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). A subset of over 1,000 German and US children were monitored for adverse events through a fourth successive dose of Tripedia vaccine. A subset of 580 German children were monitored for adverse events through a fifth successive dose of Tripedia vaccine. Over 400 children who had received three doses of whole-cell pertussis DTP vaccine were assessed for adverse events following a booster dose of Tripedia vaccine at 15 to 20 months of age.

All this from a vaccine, that wonderful product

...all what? It says children were "monitored" and "assessed" for these conditions -- this does not mean they fucking had it, it just means the doctors were checking for it. For fucks sake!

which the phamphet also states:

Tripedia vaccine has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potentials

...so you would risk very possible, very real, very permanent side effects to save children from hypothetical risks?

Source: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pdf Second Source: Had it as a child. Was one of the rare ones who suffered a complication.

...so, no formal medical training, then? A PDF and one person's personal experience is not going to trump the established opinion of the vast majority of qualified medical personnel. For every study that questions their safety there's hundreds if not thousands that affirm it. Are you saying all these doctors, researchers, organizations etc. are all wrong, and you, with no medical degree, are right? That seems unlikely.

I'm a software engineer, not a doctor. Therefore I defer to them for all medical advice, because I recognize they are far more qualified to speak on the matter than I. ...just like I would expect a doctor to defer to my opinion on matters relating to computer science.

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