Differences in dating prospects for men and women.

They've already shown their hand, their interest, and as such aren't the ones making the decision

That's ridiculous. So once you've shown interest you can never change your mind? This isn't how dating works for mature adults. It's a give and take situation where you get a feel for each other. Either one of them can reject the other at any point.

There's a reason salespeople treat you like kings

As I already pointed out, women aren't being treated "like kings". That's your romantization of what is in fact a majority of lazy and shitty messages. What you are saying is that if car salespeople try to run you over when you are trying to choose a car you still hold the power. Ridiculous.

The fact is you had the option to talk to them, you had options.

Shitty options are not a privilege. They are a nuisance. Since we're comparing with sales people, phone sales people come to mind. Sure, they offer something, but in the vast majority of cases it's a call you'd rather have been spared.

you're just not typical in deciding to make the first moves

I probably initiate more than most since I've initiated with every partner I've ever had. However, it's not as uncommon as people assume. Here is an example from a US population (I think it's different in Europe due to more gender egalitarian cultures)

A study of 6,485 users of a major dating site found that men viewed more than three times as many profiles as women did, and that men on average sent three times as many first-contact emails over the course of the study. See Hitsch, G., Hortacsu, A., and Ariely, D., “Marching and Sorting in Online Dating”, American Economic Review, Vol. 100, No. 1 (March 2010), pp. 130-163.


In a study of college-aged female date initiators by Mongeau, Hale, Johnson, and Hillis (1993) it was found that 90% of men had been asked out on a date by a woman and a shocking 83% of those for a first date.

So, it's not that women don't approach it's just that men do it a lot more. Clearly then men are not sitting there alone in the cold never being asked out because women are too passive. And as I have already stated, you have to consider the form of the message to determine whether it actually gives you a reasonable option at all. The idea that all options give a person power is silly. You have the option to eat poop for dinner. Does it make you feel powerful?

Attractiveness is based on subconscious biological standards that have been embedded in our DNA. This is most readily shown through composite facial studies.

Your study says that facial symmetry contributes to attractiveness. That's hardly news. What you have to prove is that this accounts for close to a 100% of the reasons we choose one partner before another. Another issue with your argument (that attractiveness is based on subconscious biological standards) is that these studies are done on adults and adults could have learned what is attractive and what isn't.

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