Why do men ask women to their house for a 2nd date instead of going somewhere public?

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That's an excellent analogy, actually. You're expecting a stranger to keep trying to entertain you without providing any positive feedback. Wouldn't you say that this sounds quite entitled?

No offence, but so much is wrong with this quote. For one thing, I don't expect a stranger to entertain me. I'm entertaining. I don't have to sleep with someone to keep them entertained. My value as a date isn't in the sexual services I provide, since I'm not a hooker. And who said I don't provide positive feedback? Men aren't dogs that need a dog biscuit as positive feedback. If I like someone, there is a lot of positive feedback that isn't sex. There is flirting. There is conversation where you are actually really trying to get to know the other person. There is eye contact. There is physical contact that isn't sex related. When there is a vibe, the "we might fall in love sometime" vibe, then everyone is 14 again. Holding their hand is magical too. Even if you're a grown ass adult. Entitled? I feel the underlying idea here is that the value of women is the sexual services they provide and they should provide these services as an exchange for conversation. And that's just not it. I'm not entitled if I expect a guy to enjoy talking to me. If he doesn't, he won't fall in love with me. The thing is dead in the water anyways. And sex isn't a service, it's something you do when you feel like it.

Also, on a slight tangent, would you agree that a large majority of women had at least one one-night stand sometime in their lives? Which would then mean that they were either ready in the same evening they met the guy or that they were willing to overlook their lack of being ready for that specific guy.

Why should any man want to commit to a woman that gives him worse terms & conditions than those she gave another man in the past?

Don't you know life is long and people learn? If I tried mint ice cream once and didn't like it, do I have to eat it everytime I'm a guest at someone's home? To be fair?

I've had sex with someone on the first night before. Tried it, it's not for me, feel zero percent guilty that I'm not into it.

There are so many things wrong with this kind of thinking. But the main thing is very, very simple. People have to try things to figure out what works for them. Live and learn. Teenagers make stupid fashion choices. Doesn't mean they have to wear platform shoes their entire lives.

Second thing is understanding casual sex from women's perspective. Which is that it's a constant onslaught and you need to cultivate strong defence mechanisms to avoid it. It's not something you seek out, it's something other people try to trick you into and it takes a while before you see through all their tricks.

You know how first time tourists come home from their trip with lots of overpriced, useless trinkets because they didn't know how to politely turn down the pushy, manipulative salesmen? And then seasoned travelers don't? That.

But also, I tried it to figure out what the fuss was about. Tried it, didn't like it. That's how you figure out life.

And there there is attraction. Which is the main point. If you think attraction is on a 6 point scale, you'll be wowed by a guy you rate as 6 attractive to you. You think: this has to be something special. Then I figured it's a 10 point scale and capable of being 10/10 attracted to someone I've bonded with. And then 6/10 stranger turns into "meh". It's all about your frame of reference.

People learn by experience is my point. When I realized how much more attracted I'm to someone I've actually spent time with and how much more fun sex is then, I'm not interested in having lacklustre sex with a stranger. But you can't know this till you have both comparisons.

I'm not religious, so I wouldn't avoid sex because "God says so". I'd avoid casual sex because I tried it and realized it was overhyped. That's how adults figure out life. If you are young and naive once, that can't turn into a benchmark that you have to run all your relationships by.

It's like if a 16 year old guy once spent his entire paycheck buying a cliched heart necklace for his first girlfriend. Teenagers are silly. If I date that guy as an adult, I won't expect him to do the same or "he doesn't love me". I'd realize he's grown up a bit and is a different person. Which is a good thing for me, since then we can have a mature relationship. He knows more what he wants and which kind of girl he actually wants to date. And he knows more which kind of relationship is right for him.

Who you fall for when you are very young and when you grow up is different and that's a good thing.

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