I think there might be some difference in feelings between what happens when a cis women transgresses these boundaries and what happens when a trans women participates in the same problematic behavior. I feel like the latter can result in something that a lot more people find uncomfortable. Which maybe isn't helping.

I understand your point, but at the same time I haven't seen cis women participate in this type of behavior as much as I've seen trans women do so. I know 7 trans women and I would say 5 of them make me very uncomfortable to be around. I understand that you can't paint a broad brush, but at the same time I feel like it's not okay to just ignore this behavior.

Can you explain this for me?

Misogynist jokes, rape jokes, talking over people, pressuring lesbians into making out, brushing off constructive criticism about their behavior, etc.

I've seen this on the Internet, but I've never seen this in real life. Most trans women I know are mostly happy not to have anything to do with people who aren't interested in them.

I can only speak from my experience, and I've seen a lot of gaslighting perpetuated by trans women towards me and my cis lesbian friends.

Got it. Sorry a little bit extra skeptical right now since there's another user just running around AL being mean and outright rude to people.

No worries, I think she got into this thread too and is a complete and awful troll.

That make sense. I'm curious about how this unpacks if you want to talk about it. I'm also curious what you think would be helpful in creating a better community.

I think there needs to be strong boundaries set up by cis women in our community, so that our safety and our well being is of the highest priority. I don't feel safe in my community anymore, and that feeling is crushing. I am against banning trans women from women spaces, but at the same time I can't help but wish they were banned from my meetup/friend groups. They have made things extremely uncomfortable and it makes me incredibly upset that you can't criticize their bro like behavior without being called transphobic.