At approximately 1945 EST you posed the question:
What’s complicated? Don’t drone other countries. Seems pretty easy. I’ve never droned anybody, have you? Also, you literally asked what his body count was. Why are you mad when you’re given a number? If you want good faith discussion, why get upset when you get an answer? Biden has killed civilians. Killing civilians doesn’t help them. Because it kills them.
AND THEN YOU DELETED THIS REPLY WHILE I WAS TYPING IT
Well.. I gotta say, you dragged up some fucking memories that I didn't really want to relive, so everyone gets to hear your question and my answer anyway.
coward.
A) The number you've given can't be supported by reputable data.
2,000-3,000 civilians cross Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan is, in all honesty, probably true without context.
In context, some of those civilians were killed unintentionally, some of them were killed because operational intel wasn't 100%, and some were killed because they were used as human shields.
I realize now that you're not obtuse, you're just naive and unable to critically think.
My worst day in Afghanistan was firing a 40mm grenade into a mud house to stop a PK that was firing on my convoy.
I was a medic and was working on three wounded casualties when concentrated fire started coming from this mud house that hadn't previsously been a threat. One of the soldiers I was treating has an M4 with a 203 launcher, so I grabbed it, loaded a HE round, and fired it at the house. I missed, and did it again, this time exploding, and partially collapsing it. Once the area was secure and the wounded had been medevac'd out, we checked out the house.
Part of my job was to use the HIIDE camera, which is this biometric camera that can take fingerprints and retinal scans. Sometimes I'd do this to live people, often I'd do it to bits of dead people to see if the bits belonged to someone who was wanted. Going into the remains of the house was a job of the latter persuasion.
Inside was a 4-man Taliban crew surrounded by their light machine gun, personal weapons, grenades, and ammo. There were also 5-6 children (they were in pieces, so we weren't there long enough to do a full anatomical investigation) along with a woman in a burka.
I killed 10-11 people that day.
I did it to save the lives of 6 ISAF personnel, and to prevent the Taliban (who are essentially a religiously thematic mafia) from inflicting further harm on Bory Kali, which is some backwater town in western Afghanistan with no reliable power or running water. We'd helped build a school there in '08, and I've de-wormed and vaccinated most of the children in the town, and the Mullah promised that both boys and girls would get to go to school in his town, and that made me happy.
B) Biden didn't kill those civilians.
People like me killed some of those civilians. People like me remember killing those civilians and remember why we did. I didn't want to. I didn't choose to. They died in the middle of a war zone where EVERYTHING IS COMPLICATED. If I could have magically saved them, I would have. If I'd been given some supernatural (dare I say divinely interventional) ability to spare them for the price of my own life, I would have. Life doesn't work that way though, and so sometimes civilians die.
Like I said, you're not obtuse. You're not stupid. You're naive.
Thank you for helping me dig up some shit I usually try not to think about in an effort to educate your naive ass.