traps are gay, because traps by definition are preop. So they still have a penis.

Would a man who loses his penis in an accident by definition become a woman? No and he would be insulted by the insinuation. 'Just because I've lost my penis doesn't mean i'm not a man. I know what I am.' He would have these thoughts. He would be insulted, 'how fucking dare you tell me what I am now because of what I don't have. It wasn't my fault that happened, it was an accident.'

Trans women who are pre op are definitely not male identified, thus not gay. They are not men. They do not identify with being men. They are 'pre-op' in this scenario which means they plan on removing their male anatomy because of this identification. The same identification the man in the first scenario experiences.

Traps are feminine 'male-identified' crossdressers. Gay. They're dudes. They like being dudes. But they also like expressing gender non conforming behaviors whilst fully identifying as men but portraying this within a feminine paradigm.

There is a distinction. One is transgender, the other is not. One is gay, the other is not. They are not the same. Having a penis does not make you a man. Not having a penis doesn't make you a woman. Dressing as a girl to have sex with a man as a man is gay. Dressing as a girl to have sex with a man while having a penis is not gay. Fuck lol.. I'm going to turn my computer off now. This is too much.