I drunk ordered pizza last night and woke up to this... All I remember from our encounter is him telling me I smelled good and my response was "thanks I showered" *closes door* *dives head first into pizza*

And often we do not at all accept that excuse. See: crimes committed while intoxicated, friendships ruined by people who are jerks when they drink, boyfriends who cheat while drunk, etc.

Which is you doing something to someone else, not having something done to you.

How did I ignore her consent by coming by her place when she had asked me to? If she had said "oh, I didn't mean to invite you over." I would have left immediately. My point was she had invited me because she wanted to hang out with me. You just like to take the logic you think a person is using, twist it out of context, and say "WHAT IF YOU SAID THAT ABOUT ASSAULT?!?!?!??!?"

Drunk consent isn't consent; I'm being consistentvwith every understanding of drinking and consent, you're picking and choosing when consent matters to you or not. How is that different from rapists?

It's kind of frustrating.

Thst you see consent as a barrier instead of a part of normal interaction? Yes.

If that stranger asks you for a hug, and you are ok with hugging them, and have no reason to believe they dislike hugs from you, is it wrong if they've been drinking

If they're wasted drunk I can't hug them just because I get nonconsensual permission. If the next day they find out what I did and have a problem with it, I'm liable to be charged with unwanted touching/contact. So are you now reversing your stance on physical space consent to?

On the contrary, in a small market getting hired on the next job is directly related to making a good impression on the last one.

You must not be leaving good impressions then; I can't imagine why!

You see, I'm not trying to argue something in a court of law here. I'm just trying to appeal to your sense of, you know, being reasonable.

I can hardly reason with someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

I don't think that's a thing you're willing to do though.

I'm not willing to wipe your ass and dress you either; teaching you basic concepts you should have been taught at a young age is not terribly enjoyable.

It's clearly more about telling me I'm wrong and insulting my character with any ammo you can grab. Like, what else do you accomplish by telling me I'm a dude that takes advantage of women?

Using your own anecdotes against you. You shouldn't bring them up as proof if you don't like what they reveal about you.

I know it's not true, and no one else is bothering to read this far. You're only saying these things for you, Meg. How's that working for you?

Pretty well so far if I'm getting you riled enough to double downvote off an alt (unless you want to reverse whst you'rebsaying about no one reading). I thoroughly enjoy just pointing out ways misogynists like you tangle yourself up in your own bullshit.

Like, you're RooshV level school of learning here.

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